@emil I really want compact, lightweight, and high resolution VR goggles so that I can surround myself with monitors even when traveling.
@harding I think AR would be better for that. I prefer to see my keyboard
@emil heh, I type Dvorak on a QWERTY keyboard, so looking at my keyboard while typing is a distraction. 😃
@waxwing @jon @emil I don't think I ever really look, although sometimes I do a bit of off-by-one-key trial and error. I've been a touch typer also since my teens (20 years) and dvorak for over 10 years.
The one thing I do still look at the keyboard for is one-handed keyboard use when I'm just lazily browsing and want to do things like Ctrl-Tab or trigger some window manager options.
@harding @waxwing @emil What harding said 👍, good points. Same, learned to touch type in school at age 12 or so (what a useful class) but only switched to dvorak a little over a year ago. Was a 90wpm typer in qwerty, now 60ish in dvorak but my hands feel better, especially my left hand which qwerty overuses.
I actually use dvp (programmer dvorak), and so now do off-by-one trial and error more with numbers and less with symbols, since the symbols get more importance and better placement.
@jon @harding @waxwing @emil I was just about to ask why you were (all) using dvorak. I had heard about it, but never looked into it.
Can I conclude it is because of RSI? If true, 'just' because of it or is there more to it?
I''ve been using a Microsoft Natural keyboard for many years precisely because it keeps your hand/wrists in a more natural position then a normal keyboard and certainly a laptop keyboard.
@FreePietje @jon @waxwing @emil some of the world's fastest typists use dvorak, although I type the same speed on it that I did on qwerty (80 wpm) and I doubt I'll ever get any faster (except to do transcription work like Bryan Bishop, I don't think typing faster would help me much).
So, for me, it's all about preventing RSI.
One nice side benefit, though, is that it makes shoulder-surfing my passwords harder. E.g. "password123" on qwerty is "ra;;,soh123" on modified dvorak.
agreed, for me the search for pain prevention was what finally pushed me over the line to learn dvorak.
the opsec is a bonus.
i was a very fast qwerty typer, and so far am slower in dvorak, so the change had nothing to do with speed.
my one complaint is that i find the -/_ key next to <RET> (on ANSI layouts) to be error-prone.
in general i find that dvorak uses the right hand more than qwerty does. and the fingers move less.
as a programmer the arguments presented here were also interesting, which is why i went for the programmer variant:
@harding @jon @waxwing @emil Thanks :)
Typing fast isn't important to me as software engineering is far more about thinking then typing.
Preventing RSI has always been important to me and therefor I immediately bought a 'broken' keyboard and I assume it's also because of that, that I've never had any complaints (wrt RSI) :D
Thanks for bringing up workrave as it made me install rsibreak (again) as that's a KDE program, but will probably try workrave as well.
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