@stevenroose you mean you have your browser configured not to accept cookies at all? That doesn't break all your saved logins?
Would it be possible to get #Firefox to implement a per-cookie prompt? :/
In Firefox, your saved logins are different than cookies. My browser is set to disallow 3rd-party cookies, and my browser also saves some of my passwords.
@StampedingLonghorn Sure, I have my Firefox configured the same way. I was thinking about first-party cookies, without which the only way to stay logged in to a site is to have it keep a session token in the URL, which is undesirable for several reasons.
@fatboy Ah haha I thought you were saying you didn't care about cookies, not that that was the name of the addon 😅
@stevenroose yes it seems like something that should have been solved technologically not by a law mandating annoying popups
Firefox' state partitioning is a move in the right direction imo, it makes cookies harder to use for tracking while it doesn't disable cookie-for-login uses:
@orionwl Hmm yeah that makes sense. Though reversely, a lot of those isolation features might also hinder progress of federated services. UX while browsing websites that actually integrate with a federated service you are logged into is already quite bad.
But that might be a separate thing not sure.
@stevenroose i think you've answered your own question why Firefox dev hasn't been more aggressive pursuing features like this—cookies and third-party state do have their uses—and not to throw the baby away with the bath water
this feature is very much a compromise that should still make uses like that possible, the state is isolated between each "application"
@orionwl Even though my suggestion of having a prompt could quite easily accomodate a "allow all cookies from site X" or something like that. It's just the idea of having cookie mgmt explicitly done on the client side instead of passing regulation to let services faithfully deal with it.
IMO it's a failure of the web browser sector to have let it come thus far the the #EU felt like it had to intervene.
@stevenroose the thing is, while people tend to dislike prompts and micromanagement, most users will not care whether they're in the client or server side 😀
@orionwl Sure, but the server side prompt results in a promise from the provider "sure thing I won't store cookies 👍" that is ultimately only enforced by laws and a judiciary system so enforcement is super indirect and expensive. While a client-side prompt would ultimately put the user in full direct control.
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